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Conversations within the sport of sailing - Erin Maxwell

It is often said how sailing is unique as a sport, where the opportunity is readiliy available to compete against the very best in the sport. Occassionally we get the chance to chat with them too.


Erin Maxwell
(June 2, 2009) During their last three international regattas, Americans Erin Maxwell and Isabelle Kinsolving have been steady contenders on the Olympic 470 women's scene: First at the 2008 Worlds, second at the 2009 Miami Olympic Classes Regatta, and last week they were third at the 2009 Delta Lloyd Regatta. However, it was at the US Trials for the 2008 Olympics where they failed to advance. Scuttlebutt checked in with Erin to learn what wrong then, what is going right now, and to get her insight into women’s sailing in the U.S.

  • Have you analyzed what went wrong at the Trials?


  • It is hard to pinpoint any one thing that caused us to fall short at the Trials in '07.

    We had trained incredibly hard with all of our hearts every day leading up the event, had been performing really well in practice against top international teams, were in great physical shape, had a boat that was finely tuned, a great coach, great team dynamic, I could go on…

    But, I can say one thing with certainty, Amanda Clark and Sarah Mergenthaler, who came up the winners, sailed an amazing event. It was probably the best I have ever seen them sail. People have asked me if I regret not sailing full-time sooner before the Trials and if I thought the outcome would have been different if we had trained as a team for longer before the Trials. But, I think the result at the Trials would likely have been the same. We sailed a good regatta, I wouldn't say it was our best, but we sailed well. It just turned out that the Trials was "their event," and not ours.

    There were definitely things about our performance that could have been improved that would have gotten us closer to a win. I think Amanda and Sarah had a better understanding of determining the large persistent shift on windward legs than us. And, our risk management skills could have been better during the event. I think to some extent, it took losing the Trials and reliving each race in our heads in the months following to really fully appreciate the risk/reward of some tactical situations. We are better racers today because of it.

    The US Trials was also a small fleet, only 13 boats, which had a large gap in skill from the front to the back of the fleet relative to most international events we sail. So, I think in comparing our recent results versus the Trials, our skill set as a team plays better to big fleet tactics, managing traffic on the course, and starting on dense starting lines that pay a premium for being front row. So, the Trials format didn’t play well for our strengths. At the Trials, starting well didn’t pay the same comparable dividends that it would in an international fleet, since you could take one tack after a bad start and have a clean lane for the rest of the race. In an international fleet, a poor start could see you doing 10 tacks before you get a clean lane and spending the rest of the race fighting the herd -a vastly different type of racing skills than are required at the Trials for success.

    The US Trials puts a large premium on boat speed since it’s such a small fleet. Although our speed is a strength of ours as a team, it isn’t what makes us stand out. We are one of the top 10 fastest teams in the world in most wind velocities, but there are very few conditions that we are top 3 in the world in boat speed. Hence, why when you look at our race scores from Sail Melbourne, The Worlds, The Delta Lloyd Regatta, you’ll see very few race wins but also very few races out of the top 10. The Trials were sailed in relatively flat water and 6-10 knots for almost every race of the event. Amanda and Sarah are a really talented team both upwind and downwind in those conditions, one of the best in the world, and had a small edge on us in speed at times. I think that made us search for a tactical advantage that was hard to find in the small fleet, and sometimes resulted in us taking risks that didn’t have the appropriate reward ratio associated with them.

    It’s easy to run yourself in circles reflecting on an event, but Amanda and Sarah deserved to win the event with the way they sailed and peaked for the Trials. They sailed amazingly, and that is the reason why the US Trials system was designed. It’s the hope that a team that can peak for a one event, winner-take-all, can also peak for the same scenario at the Olympic Games.

    Sometimes it takes losing something that means everything to you to force you to look in the mirror and dig deeper for perfection to prevent feeling that kind of pain again.

  • After failing to make the 2008 U.S. Olympic team, what is your motivation now to continue campaigning for the Olympics?


  • We have a few motivations.

    First of all, sailing is fun. We enjoy sailing together and look forward to every day we get to spend on the water. I use all my vacation days from my job for 470 regattas. I can’t think of a better “vacation day.”

    Secondly, we have a little bit of “unfinished business.” We have the same dreams of most campaigners… an Olympic medal. And, although Iz has been to the Games in 2004, I have never been. I have had the dream of getting to walk in the opening ceremonies with the rest of the US Olympic athletes in team uniform from as young as I can remember. Getting to represent your country at the highest level on a world stage is pretty cool. We will hopefully get that chance and make all our supporters who have stood by us through the many years proud.

  • During the last Olympic quad, U.S. women were very competitive internationally in the Laser Radial and Yngling, but not so much in the 470. What has changed now?


  • Time in the boat! Being successful at an international level in sailing takes years of practice. Clearly sailing is a sport where experience pays.

    We are just now beginning to enjoy all the years of hard work to get better in the 470 class. A lot of that is thanks to Coach Skip Whyte. I started sailing 470’s before the ’99 Trials, Iz started in ’01. Where we are today is a product of the many days of dedicated coaching from Skip. We unfortunately don’t get to have his coaching as often anymore, but we still hear his words in our heads as we travel around a race course.

  • The strength within the U.S. Olympic program currently seems to be with the women sailors. Why do you think that is?


  • Good question. I have often wondered the same thing. Some of it just might be cyclical with the sailors that are competing now. In other quads men have performed stronger than the women’s teams overall. The US also has built a strong system of Junior Women’s sailing competitions and clinics. And we have strong women’s college sailing that most other countries lack. Maybe it’s now paying dividends? For instance, many of our successful Laser Radial sailors in the US, attended the Leiter Cup (US Women’s National Junior Single-handed Championship), growing up as junior sailors. Then the Radial became an Olympic Class, which gave us a leg up as a country against other countries that didn’t already have this sort of event already established in the Radial. This is not to take anything away from Anna and Paige, who have been nothing short of outstanding over the last quad. They are just in another league and would succeed regardless. I was more speaking to the fact that we probably have 20 women in the US that can compete in the top 100 Radial sailors in the world versus some of the other Olympic Classes where we certainly don’t have this same kind of depth.

  • How complicated will the next four years be for you and Isabelle?


  • A LOT is being juggled. We have more on our plates than your average campaigner by 2 or 3 fold. We are both working hard on careers and busy in our personal lives. I work full time as a commodities trader for 12 hours/day. Isabelle is in law school full-time at NYU, one of the top law schools in the country. She is doing well there, a testament to the hard work she is dedicating to her studies. She just started her summer internship with a judge this week. I got married this past fall to Brit Bischoff and Isabelle is getting married in a couple weeks to Jonathan Farrar. Needless to say, wedding planning has added to our hectic schedules over the past year. We both coach sailing on the side as well to help make some extra money. I own two dogs that are a lot of fun but a lot of work, Isabelle has another side job doing legal research, the list goes on! It’s been a challenge to fit in practice time on the water, and time in the gym.

    This schedule isn’t going to get any easier any time in the near future, but we are working out ways to be as efficient as possible and find a balance in our lives to make it work. It’s important to us to be successful in areas of our lives outside of sailing.

    Erin and Isabelle during the 2009 Delta Lloyd Regatta
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